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Which MRI to Buy Superconducting or Permanent?
In conversation with Som Panicker, Vice president, MRI
Division, Sanrad Medical Systems

Som Panicker
Vice president,
MRI Division,
Sanrad Medical Systems
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Buying any capital medical equipment is a big decision, and
most of the individual or institutional customers will have to go through this
question on what kind of MRI they should purchase, and we have found out that
many customers are confused with this basic step of identifying the right type
of equipment suitable for them. In the process of unfolding this most important
start up question we have decided to talk to few experts from both Superconducting
and permanent type MR equipment segment and share their expertise.
In this first series of articles we have spent some quality
time with Som Panicker, Vice President of MRI Division with Sanrad Medical Systems
who spent more than 17 years of experience in MR equipment industry. He has
rich project and product management experience both with superconducting as
well as permanent MRI including Philips Medical Systems and Hitachi medical
systems before taking over MRI business of Sanrad representing MDT, USA. He
was involved with many MR sales processes and always advised customers on merits
and demerits of various types of MRIs.
Let us start with a basic question what is the basic difference between different
types of MRIs available in the market.
In order to understand this basic concept let me put this
in a small table which is very helpful for you. (See table 1).
| Type of MRI |
Field Strength |
Advantage |
Disadvantage |
Some Examples |
| Resistive Iron Open or Upright |
0.2T to 0.5T |
You can switch on or off , low initial cost, reasonably
good quality imaging |
Very high power consumption, low field strength,
very heavy, not possible to do high-end imaging and special applications |
Siemens Magnetom Open, Fonar Upright MRI Philips
Panorama .23T |
| Permanent Magnet Open |
0.3 to 0.7T |
Very easy to maintain, low power consumption, Open
access, Patient friendly, can do most of the routine work |
Low field, cannot be turned off, not possible to
do high-end special applications like Spectroscopy, functional imaging |
MDT century 3000,
MDT mstar 4500
MDT xstar 7000
Hitachi Airis Elite,
Hitachi Aperto |
| Superconducting Tunnel Type |
0.5 to 9T |
High Field applications, Very high homogeneity, Good
for very thin slices, good for high end applications like Spectroscopy,
functional imaging etc. |
Very high initial as well as running cost, Very high
power consumption, Can quench,24 hours Ac working, expensive cold heads
and service contracts. Require frequent filling of Helium |
Philips Achieva 3T
Siemens Avanto 1.5T
Hitachi Echelon 1.5T |
| Hybrid, Super conducting Open |
0.6 to 1.2T |
Mid field applications, apen access, Reasonably good
image quality |
Very heavy, high power consumption, also Helium used.very
expensive to buy |
Hitachi OASIS 1.2T Philips Panorama 1T |
When a customer starts planning an MRI, what are the factors he/ she should
consider to decide on what type of magnet?
Every
customer should consider a few aspects before finalising a MR type. They are:
- What will be the patient load? How many patients
per day?
- Is this site a private diagnostic centre, hospital,
referral or research centre?
- What is their budget for initial purchase and annual
service cost?
- What is the geographical area this MR will serve
and its population?
- How many MRIs are already in this area?
- How many physicians, neurologists, neurosurgeons,
orthopaedic surgeons are based in this area?
- How and who will invest? Financed by a bank /financial
institutions or own funds/donation/charity/public fund?
I can make a logical recommendation going through these answers and most probably
they can get convinced on that logical conclusion.
You
have worked on superconducting MRI for many years, how do you compare the quality
between these two systems?
Frankly speaking we should not compare superconducting MRIs with permanent systems
as they are two segments of customer choice and we should help the customer
to make a right choice depending on his needs and capability. I have great respect
for superconducting MRI and I am also closely following the developments with
3T and updating myself with some experimental systems like 7T and 9T MRI. These
are ultimate in MR research and are very useful for new experiments in clinical
diagnosis.
Permanent MRIs were developed around 25 years back but became popular only in
the last 10 years due to tremendous improvements in system design, image quality
and new pulse sequences at par with high tesla systems.
I remember when I was working with superconducting MRs abroad in 90s, in our
training courses they used to teach about MRI and they used to say the so-called
permanent magnets are very low tesla magnets not good for clinical diagnosis.
Today, most of the MR manufactures are making permanent magnets and are very
successful in making good business globally.
But there is a wide spread campaign that permanent magnets
are compromise systems offering low image quality. How do you tackle this issue?
It is true that permanent MRI are cost-effective systems offering
image quality acceptable to routine clinical diagnostic standards and keeping
in mind the investment required.
This is like a situation you are looking for a good car which you can afford
to buy. There are many models of car which can satisfy all your quality expectation
and offering extremely high specification. But basic question is how much you
can afford to spend on a car and is it satisfying your requirements to a large
extent.
In fact, a 1.5T system is also a compromise system compared
to 3T systems and a 3T system is superior in specifications and quality and
I whole-heartedly recommend a 3T MR system for any customer who says investment
is not an issue and he want the last word in MRI.
How do you react when a customer says only Supercon MRI
will be good for him?
Unfortunately, many individual customers reach their conclusion without applying
their mind logically and buy a brand new, refurbished or used supercon MRI and
then land up in never-ending financial difficulties and viability problems.
If they start working on a base point like how many patients they want to do
and most of the time an answer to this question will give their first lead to
this confusing question. I have asked many neurosurgeons and neurologists working
with permanent MR systems and most of them said in less than two per cent cases
they find permanent MR image quality is not enough for making their diagnosis
and referred such patients to higher tesla systems. This is very important aspect
and we can say the same thing can happen with 1.5T compared to 3T image information.
Can you tell us how permanent MRIs have become very popular
in India and many countries in recent years?
Permanent MRI became popular first in Japan mainly due to less space for installation
and low initial cost as well as running cost. Japanese medical equipment gained
acceptance all over the world due to its low cost, high reliability and high
image quality. Japanese-made permanent MRs also entered other markets like India
and Far East. Permanent MRs are sold in USA mainly as secondary units or interventional
units with their popularity and acceptance multiplied all over the world. Today,
other than Japan and USA, maximum number of permanent MRs are installed in India
and the growth and success of permanent MR market in India was phenomenal. With
the soaring dollar prices, it becomes no longer viable for an individual buyer
to invest in 1.5T or 3T superconducting as patients can only be charged equally
irrespective of supercon or permanent MR systems in a private diagnostic centre.
Are permanent MR Systems bought only because they are cheap?
Definitely not. Permanent MR Systems are acceptable today like any other superconducting
MRI and many times preferred over a refurbished 1.5T MR system and I can give
many examples of customers opted for permanent MRI despite they have resources
for buying any 1.5T or even a 3T MRI. They bought the system after getting fully
convinced that they can do 90 per cent of their MR requirements using a good
quality permanent MR system compared to a high field MR system. Of course most
of the customer keeps in mind what investment they need to make for an MR system
and how fast they can get their return on investment. But that is not the only
reason for making their choice but the acceptance of permanent MRI image quality
by most of the clinicians.
What is the benchmark for an MRI image quality and how
far this is achieved by permanent MRs?
When you are talking about quality with permanent MRI, unfortunately not all
the permanent MR systems available today are of the same quality standard. There
are some brands which are acceptable worldwide due to its high specifications
and image quality. I would like to compare only those systems with a radiologist's
expectation from an MR image.
A very quality conscious radiologist or clinician looks for at least the following
basic factors in any MR image:
- How good is the spatial and contrast resolution of
the image?
- How good or better is the Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR)?
- How less artefact in the image?
- Am I getting the information I am looking for diagnosis?
Permanent MRI images are improved in all these aspects over the last 10 years
and some factors like artefact reduction they are better off than high field
magnets. In fact, I have shown a puzzle of mixed MRI images to more than 10
of my radiologist friends and more than 80 per cent permanent magnet images
are mixed with 1.5T as well as 3T images. Except for angio, most of the radiologists
could not separate permanent magnet images from this set. It is a fact if you
know in advance that these images are from a permanent MRI, you may look them
with a different mindset assuming that they cannot better than 1.5T. Unfortunately,
sometimes some bad quality images are printed from high tesla systems due to
various reasons like poor installation, reconditioned systems, bad environment,
bad operator skills to get good images.
The radiologist will look at the MRI picture shown at the right side and try
to co-relate the text book image he has in mind and then how good he can match
with it the better he will appreciate the image. Now, if I ask him can you make
out which MR is used here, is it supercon or permanent? In fact, if we can satisfy
his requirements he will not care if the magnet is A, B or Open. And permanent
magnet manufactures have been working for many years to match this quality expectation.
You mean to say permanent MR quality is as good as Supercon?
Not exactly, as I have explained in the beginning, permanent MRI are acceptable
as a cost-effective solution having a tread off between price and quality and
can be used for 90 per cent of the routine examination. When you talk about
limitations higher field systems like 1.5T or 3T systems also have certain limitations
and some time refer the same patient to an Open system. A typical example is
joint motion studies (kinematic studies).
I have one funny experience when a marketing guy explained to a referring doctor
that a 1.5T system will have five times better quality as 1.5/ .3= 5 , this
is a ridiculous judgment as the quality is not five times less for permanent
and supercon is not five times greater. Once we understand this quality aspect
it is much easier to make a conclusion on what MRI you should buy.
Is field strength of the magnet or Tesla a major criterion?
Of course. But field strength of the magnet is not the only criterion for image
quality. Other than magnet technology there is also the entire signal chain
and the respective software. In the latest permanent MR systems there are several
new techniques developed to improve the filtering out of movement and noise
artefacts.
The second important argument for MRI examinations with an open system is patient
comfort. Many patients are still too nervous about undergoing MRI examinations
a problem significantly alleviated by the use of open systems. Most of the open
systems offer a free view around the patient, making it suitable for groups
of patients with particular problems like children or obese patients.
Also, there is a major advantage in open systems for the examining doctors.
Examination times can be shortened significantly, and the open system makes
certain interventions, like in catheterisation or biopsies, possible. Additionally,
MRI imaging is now of interest for further indications. For example, orthopaedic
specialists who want to study a musculoskeletal organ or a joint dynamically.
Radiation exposure in CT examinations has been continually reduced, but still
has to be considered and the effects of exposure to radiation should be viewed
cumulatively. In this, MRI examinations are superior to CT scans.
Thanks to the higher dollar exchange rates, lot of refurbished
or used MRIs, both supercon as well as permanent MRIs, are quite popular. What
is your advice for people looking for such cost-saving solution?
I am very happy, you have asked me this question when we talked about cost-effective
solutions. Unlike CT, an MR installation is a complex process and lot of factors
like transport of the magnet, shielding room, environment, equipment history,
damage while offloading, coil damage or poor performance etc will result in
poor image quality coming out of a second hand or refurbished MR system. Adding
to the mystery, most of the time installations or adjustments of a used MRI
will be done by people who have not trained on the system.
As a result, more than 95 per cent of the used MR customers are unhappy. Risk
of buying a refurbished supercon system is very high as spare parts can be very
expensive as well as maintaining a supercon system will be much more than maintaining
a new supercon system. Also, while transporting a used permanent MR system,
shimming or the homogeneity of the magnet can go partly or completely bad and
if it cannot be corrected will end-up in very bad image quality. Installing
a used MRI will never be the same like installing a factory shipped new MRI.
I have seen plenty of used MR customers struggling with no escape route due
to a bad image quality and expensive running costs with used MRI system.
Many of the MR systems or components like coils are made
in China today, but are they reliable?
It is true that most of the MR magnets as well as coils irrespective of the
origin of the MRI company are now made in China. Every raw material required
for making magnets or MR components are easily available in China making it
one of the hot destinations for all MR vendors. That is the reason nine out
of 10 MR manufactures have set-up their main factory or accessory units in China
today.
These products are manufactured or assembled in China do not make any degradation
or deviation in quality as these high-end medical imaging equipment are manufactured
as per strict quality control norms and are highly reliable. Unfortunately,
there is a general impression that anything coming from China are inferior.
Japanese products were facing a similar situation 25 years back from the US
and Europe. China is one country that has made tremendous progress in science
and technology or space travel in recent years and they have developed some
of the most advanced scientific equipment on par with any advanced country in
the world. In my opinion, China will be a superpower in next 10 years and even
the US will have to struggle to catch with China then.
Finally what is Sanrad and MDT doing with permanent MRI
and what is your vision on the future of permanent MRI in India?
Sanrad is the company built on customer trust and unlimited service support
thanks to the ideology of our founder and mentor Ratish Nair. Every product
we introduced in the market was after carefully evaluating the pros and cons
and keeping enough number of spares. There is a wide-spread belief among our
customers that anything they buy from Sanrad will never let them down. In fact
this very same feeling make us very responsible company while growing big. Before
entering into permanent MRI segment Sanrad evaluated at least five different
MR vendors and finally reached an agreement with MDT, US to represent them in
the Indian subcontinent. I have spent almost a month evaluating this product
before joining Sanrad, as I need to convince myself before convincing others.
Today, I can say with confidence and pride that both our permanent models Century
3000 0.3T and mstar 4500, world's first 0.45T are superior in specifications
and image quality with any equivalent field strength permanent MRI available
in the world.
MDT already developed world's highest strength permanent magnet model xstar
7000 which is 0.7T MRI, which is now undergoing testing in factory which will
be launched in 2010.
We are very confident that Sanrad MDT MRI will be one of the most sought after
permanent MRI in India this year and we focus on our customer first approach
to take MDT to the number one slot in permanent MRI segment in India.
Contact:
Som Panicker
Email: sompanicker@yahoo.com
Tel: +919920246688
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